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a good reason to be carefull on eBay

on Sun Feb 19 2017, 15:33
buyer beware is the mantra here IMO
i saw this and immediately knew i was looking at a fake

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seiko-style-S-S-Diver-watch-case-7s26-0030-/252774230839?hash=item3ada84ab37:g:M24AAOSw32lYphvX

the giveaway is the raised Tsunami............it sits far too high
its supposed to be a case For a 7s26-0030.
these were faked in large number in the Philippines along with the 0020 and 0040
complete ones use some genuine Seiko parts like the movement and to be fair the look very convincing, but
as pointed out the main give away is the raised disc with Tsunami
the other big issue is the crown and tube which are really substandard it wouldnt keep out a rain shower....
it pays to read descriptions thoroughly as this seller knows what he is selling and has covered himself

"Stainless Steel Dive watch case, ? Seiko or Seiko Style. "

note the word "Style"  Wink

its unusual to see a fake Seiko, but there are quite a lot of these around.

real case back


fake case back


on the fake the tsunami disc is too high and the tsunami is pronounced/course
there is not a crown tube seal on the crown, these fake ones have a flat rubber washer inside the crown
sadly mr average buyer looking for a nice vintage Seiko diver wouldn't know the difference
i suspect quite a few sell on ebay as genuine
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Re: a good reason to be carefull on eBay

on Sun Feb 19 2017, 15:49
I almost got caught out a few month ago luckily you spotted it for me or I would have ended up buying a fake. It is so easily done though

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Re: a good reason to be carefull on eBay

on Sun Feb 19 2017, 16:01
SeikoJohn wrote:I almost got caught out a few month ago luckily you spotted it for me or I would have ended up buying a fake. It is so easily done though

it is easily done John, without a picture of the case back you cant tell without close examination of the crown and tube Crying or Very sad
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Re: a good reason to be carefull on eBay

on Sun Feb 19 2017, 18:59
What movement do they have in them
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Re: a good reason to be carefull on eBay

on Sun Feb 19 2017, 19:01
Iceblue wrote:What movement do they have in them

7s26......a real one Wink nothing else is interchangable apart form the bezel insert
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Re: a good reason to be carefull on eBay

on Sun Feb 19 2017, 19:38
I wouldn't have realised it was wrong though would be wary with the seller using the term "Seiko style". Presumably a percentage of sellers will be unaware themselves of their watch not being genuine so would be selling in good faith.

It's scary to think though just how many dodgy ones by any make / brand are being listed and sold. Shocked
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Re: a good reason to be carefull on eBay

on Sun Feb 19 2017, 19:53
daff62 wrote:I wouldn't have realised it was wrong though would be wary with the seller using the term "Seiko style". Presumably a percentage of sellers will be unaware themselves of their watch not being genuine so would be selling in good faith.

It's scary to think though just how many dodgy ones by any make / brand are being listed and sold. Shocked

i agree especially with Seiko, historically there haven't been that many, i bought a seiko 5 from a charity shop that turned out to be fake.......my own fault, i just saw seiko and bought it, once i got home i realised Helen Keller would have spotted as a fake Shocked
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Re: a good reason to be carefull on eBay

on Sun Feb 19 2017, 20:05
Think there's a fair chance I would have been caught out with one if these if it had tickled my fancy. It's good to see these type of posts so we can know some of the things to look out for.
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Re: a good reason to be carefull on eBay

on Sun Feb 19 2017, 20:48
domecurb wrote:
daff62 wrote:I wouldn't have realised it was wrong though would be wary with the seller using the term "Seiko style". Presumably a percentage of sellers will be unaware themselves of their watch not being genuine so would be selling in good faith.

It's scary to think though just how many dodgy ones by any make / brand are being listed and sold. Shocked

i agree especially with Seiko, historically there haven't been that many, i bought a seiko 5 from a charity shop that turned out to be fake.......my own fault, i just saw seiko and bought it, once i got home i realised Helen Keller would have spotted as a fake Shocked


To be honest over the years I wasn't aware of Seikos being faked at all. With no disrespect to Seiko the ones I saw second hand weren't expensive. I therefore rather naively didn't think they would be faked. Now I know better though am starting to wonder about the various Seikos I already have. Shocked
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